YESSSS! Grub cage rules! we make it punk!

Hope they book Great White soon!!!

HAHAA!! Great White.

pioneers west sound interesting. but less garage and more new wave would make them sound fucking awesome.

Have you heard Pioneers West? There is no garage in them. None. Zero. And I do write new wave bass lines. I really hope you're joking.

yes, heard them, they're good. what i am trying to say is everything is there, from the way the singer sings, to the notes they play, to make this band like really crack some skulls in the blogsphere. totally. but if feel their sound would benefit from maybe faster drums, like in that lcd soundsystem cover of john cale's - all my friends. i feel pioneers west has that john cale vibe. and its really good. like good enough to kick some major ass. but they need more franz ferdinand is all i am saying.

I agree. Pioneers West needs to sound different. Especially to be able to fit into the "blogsphere." WHAT?! I feel their sound would benefit from maybe replacing every member in the band and being untrue to themselves to better sound exactly like someone else, like in that Alanis Morrisette cover of Creed's - all my douchebags. I feel like they both don't have a vibe at all. and it's really bad. but Franz Ferdinand needs to go drown in the radio waves and the ears of the lemmings and never come back. We get it. They like the Beatles.
Go to an actual show that Pioneers is playing and FEEL it my friend. If you can walk away and say that they aren't passionate about it then you deserve to be stuck listening to feelingless music like ol' Franz and friends.
oh and jLO .. nice ass. see you in the cage with my new shirt. s.

haha! artist's don't fit into the blogsphere, they are invited, taken in, like a good meal. but if you don't like the consensus of the blogsphere (which is comprised of people who listen, like, and buy your music all without a gun to their heads or some one telling them what to like) then fine. i agree, do whatever sounds good to you. it's funny you mention the beatles, because, frankly, without george martin, their sound probably wouldn't have developed into the platform of creative genius it did. then again history will show in the case of pioneers west:) so take what ever the fuck you want out my comments, and have a nice day.

and for the record i'm not a franz ferdinand fan, but i think we all know why johnny wants to learn to play the guitar. young pussyburgers, and i would gladly pay the devil of rock my soul tuesday for such a tasty banquet of young pussyburgers that franz ferdinand undoubtedly had on tour today. but if you'd rather make out with pushing 40 the ashtray mouths at the cage for the rest of your artistic fumblings, then be my guest pioneers west!

Johnny?! How fitting. Just for the record I am not affiliated with Pioneers West. My words are my own. Hearing you ramble on how they should sound like someone else when they clearly love what they are doing is just insanely stupid. The world would be the most monochromatic, monotone place if we all thought like you. Strive for your "pussyburgers" and dream of your spot as another lonely, talentless, yet pretentious music critic in your "blogsphere." I'll take the crowd at the grub cage (and the crowd wandering the streets around it) over you and "Johnny" any day. At least they are real.
Now get back to your top forty station so you can ingest more feelingless crap to base your musical tastes and opinions on.

Frankly, I won't attend any concert, NEW WAVE basslines or otherewise unless there is an up to code, inspected and hydrostatically tested fire sprinkler system in service. I have seen far too many good men die as a result of faulty sprinklers. And a cage? Sounds like a bad idea. Hopefully there are no fireworks here or else someone has ready access to the key (for the grub cage).

All kidding and concerns aside, I have PERSONALLY seen each band on many occassions and have observed NO unsafe or otherwise dangerous antics. Only REALLY GOOD and original non bloogosfear-friendly music that does not lick transient taint in any way shape or force! So pee off if that is not up to YOUR code MAN!

ahhaha! nitsuj, you are soooooo naive. yeah being real, you can REALLY retire on that. haha good luck being real the rest of your life and dying totally unremembered in the mediocre tacoma scene. there is plenty of 'real' artistic talent with top forty success. hiding behind the whole i suck but at least i am real thing is pretty fucking sad, not too mention naive as fuck! and a total cop out. you can either push the rock envelope, make hits and sell records, or you can stay a pay to play band the rest of your life. besides, what kind of puritanical bullshit makes a person think that success is a bad thing. obviously someone who never will have any, other than the oh wow we really rocked the acme! no what you did was sell cover charges and liquor for the acme. haha! i think its cute that you have no idea how big a part producers play in how bands sound. real bands have producers. that's just the way it is. there's no shame in having a producer tell you when you suck, and tell you when you are hitting the mark. though i think its amusing you on the other hand listen to things based on what you call 'feeling'. because i agree, you are either feeling a song or you're not. end of the day, i just want to see tacoma bands succeed. because there is a lot of bragging tacomans do about their bands, but all that shit is bias. i want to see tacoma bands tear up the major leagues. but thats just me, because i think they can do it. fuck all that ethical bullshit about how to make music, because in nature there are no ethics. there is kill and be killed. and i for one would like to see pioneers west kill it on the national stage.

The kind of "puritanical bullshit" that makes someone say that a band would sound better if they sounded like someone else.

Just so we can better understand your point.. What album have you produced? What band did you take from their naive, mediocre state and turn them into a national act? I'd like to hear it.

Well I am affiliated with Pioneers West and I appreciate your concern over our future or amount of "pussyburgers" are thrown our way. I wouldn't mind "making it", but I'm sure our definitions of what that means differ greatly. All that said, we are a young band who hasn't done much. Play Tacoma, play Seattle, release a CD. That's where we're at. There is plenty of road ahead, but I will tell you that we will do it on our terms as much as humanly possible.

i've produced josie and the big juicy pussyburgers, and dusty rhoades and the fire safety codes. currently both bands are touring with opening acts labia surfer and hometown favorites the no hit wonders.

More like a PRO-Doucher! Ha!! In your face BRAH!

ok i figured you wouldn't have heard three of these bands yet because they're like right on the verge of popping through wiggling their way into the blogovasphere. and the reason you're no longer familiar with labia surfer is because you used to know them as labia chauffeur. but after seeing the trends i found i needed to change their name to surfer based on the success of other bands with the words surf and surfer in them. butthole surfers, surfer blood, nada surf, etc. kind of like what one hot panda is doing with using the buzz word panda. by the way dusty, you are fired. the fire safety codes will be just fine with out you, like inxs. which brings me to my next announcement that there will be a tacoma's got talent audition at the grub cage soon to find a replacement for dusty. preferably individuals good at mimicking a village idiot with arsonphobia are encouraged to attend. thank you.

I think I love you. "Labia Chauffeur"!

Haha! Love the comments, along with that rooster suit in the photo up top. Points well made...Don't criticize other people's creative genius from afar. Now its time for some hardcore huggin.